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  1. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Badger said:
    Fucking guuuuutteeedddd!!!!

    @Mazer is eeeeevillllllll, Badger is trying to remove this knife from my back. Somebody hug me!

    And had this what I what was a perfect theorem of Listo being blown up because the Antwerp who I thought was Dreyski cut him up….

    My world just does not make sense anymore at the moment….betrayed Maze betrayed
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    We had essentially a trap.

    If a doc targeted someone, that person would die.
  2. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    honestly I’m shocked that I actually got the entire scum team in my final POE
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    Like I said, really solid final read there. A bit more flushed out and it could potentially shifted the EoD. And if out kill didnt go through, would have been a great starting point going into the next day. Really coming along. That MIA most of D3 and half of DD4 kinda hurt you.
  3. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Gg wolves though

    Mazer managed to fool me for so long. Had started to question it on D3 but I wasn't really into him at all

    Dreyski managed to fool me completely

    BN didn't fool me but he didn't get lynched either so gj lol
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    I knew you had to go the night we killed you. If we hadnt, you would have been pushing the thread hard to lynch me.
  4. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Xanjori said:
    Yeah basically, my win con was to role block 5 people that had targeted me.
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    we tried to target you N1, which was unsuccessful... so we just tried to avoid you with actions the rest of the game
  5. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Oh lmao it's over

    3 misyeets to lose in a game with four mafia

    It looks like after all those years my desire for a truly wolf sided setup has been satisfied xD
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    would have require more misyeets is we didnt get that double kill off
  6. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Xanjori said:
    LaL failed us :(
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    Were you a hider?
  7. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Was fun. Like that quests added to abilities.

    Think all scum actions, except the kill being hidden might have been too much. Since targets of actions werent seen, maybe if it was a percentage of actions shown/not-shown like town it could have helped town a bit.

    @ForgottenHold really good last half of the final day. You last read list was solid.
  8. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    who knows im off the nip
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    My cats hate being off the nip... or not napping. Take both away and they are downright crazy
  9. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Tildey said:
    Maybe. But your damn was in reply to me pointing out that last night was the first night we had two kills in reply to your post with that appeared to be cofident we would have two more kills tonight.
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    Do you think Future could be scum?

    He posted in a minimal manner yesterday, and the 1st half of today was MIA. Granted, this would be some of the best he's looked if he flips scum.
  10. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    I never suggested you weren’t coming back.

    Projecting much?
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    The projecting was calling this stressful, not coming back or not.

    I dont find the game stressful.
  11. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    @Badger would you consider voting bn and why
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    Whats your take on Future and Myself? Where do you feel the most scum equity and why?
  12. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    I think you should give BN the best birthday present of them all: the release of stress from a mafia game
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    Wow... good thing Dinner was nearby and quick...

    The game isnt stressful to me. Projecting much?

    Just ddirty to try and push when you dont think someone is coming back. Downright sus as fuck.
  13. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Headed out to my Birthday dinner with some friends tonight, so might not make it back before deadline. Then time with family tomorrow for my BDay, til I get sick of being around people.

    Im good with where my vote is.

    My POE is Future, Tildey and Drey. Tildey has worked to the towniest of the 3. I feel Future is the scummiest of them.
  14. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Ill also be forthcoming with with all my actions

    N1. Failed. So I was either RB'd or my target was unavailable (Hider, Commuted)
    N2. Successful
    N3. Successfil.
  15. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Badger said:
    I think it also kinda depends on how one interprets BN’s answer to my question. He did take some time and was the last of us to say whether our actions are successful? Is BN telling the truth? If his action is successful like he says it is, what do we think it might be? Did he have to say this because Future as well as myself claimed our actions weren’t successful so having three might sound odd. Is Future lying and been taking secret lessons at the kangus Scum Academy (it’s a good course, I recommend it) and pulling the wool over our eyes?
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    Was something free of cost to you?
  16. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Vote: Future

    Going to put my money where my mouth is...
  17. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I think Tildey was on to something when she went back and looked at the the writeup.

    Definitely looks like Insaner was the mafia target.

    Had insaner been poisoned, which usually takes a phase or 2, he likely would have been notified and at least said something in thread.

    Someone theorized maybe his action resulted in his death. Other then a Bomb or PGO, anything else people could thing of for death based on ones own action?
  18. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    Order of visits do matter. The fact that BN is first does make him very sus. Especially if this was a strongman like theorized. The next sus position would be me. But if Badger and I’s actions failed, it could be assumed that Listo died before our actions
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    Order matters if we know what Night is doing for action resolution. And if it is a strongman, it wouldnt mater if that was the 1st or the last to visit, as it would go through any protections that existed. We dont know IF claws gave us the order we were seen in, or just listed the 4 people seen. Also dont know if Night gave Claws the order people came in. Its all speculative.

    Mazer said:
    @Badger

    How do you read this?

    Same question to blind ninja.


    Probably also tildey at this point
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    I wasnt told my action failed, but have also mentioned that I dont have any ability to kill. Ive been trying to help people

    ForgottenHold said:
    True. I also think that my unusual way of saying things and wording isn’t super AI of me.

    What I think is more telling is BN’s aversions to answering the questions you asked.

    And the questions I asked too. But more so you because most of us think you are the towniest of the Listo visiting crew
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    Paint me some more... Not averse to answering his question, wanted clarification from the mod so I wouldnt get killed. Since I thought my answer potentially toed the line, wanted to make sure it was good before putting it in thread.
  19. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Badger said:
    Also quite keen on what more BN can say.
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    I assume my action was successful as I didnt get told it failed. Ive given what I could and know at least 1 could act.
  20. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Badger said:
    That is true. However Future and I have said our actions are not successful.

    Assuming you are sleeping now but when you wake up, can you say if your action was successful or not?
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    Im in and out of it... have a question to Foxxi to see if what I want to say is too much or not
  21. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    Looking back, Insaner seemed to have thought BN was scum

    I know killing your loudest opponents is sus, but we have seen it happen as a deception or misdirection tactic before
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    Do you expect me to consistently do things that I know will make me look sus and shady throughout the game? Do you think Im that brazen as scum?
  22. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    Unvote:

    Vote: Blind Ninja

    Let’s get some more out of you now
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    Guess Its a good thing Im a bit of a night owl... but calling for more out of me at 1230am and pushing me is a bit sus.
  23. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Badger said:
    Okay I had to check if I was allowed to say this. I cannot go into further detail but I can say I did visit Listo last night.
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    We already know that, since Claws said they saw you visit listo.

    But I also know that nobody can really say what they were doing there.
  24. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    Between you and BN, I pick you. BN has the better town vibes than you right now. Other than your D1 approach. I would love to point out that your switch from MTR to Val seemed to be at an opportune point. You were one of the middle Val votes. Same thing for the Morrison vote, changing from me to Morrison and being in the middle.

    While my MTR vote wasn’t opportune, let’s not act like I’m the only one who was in the wrong trains the first 2 days.

    As for D3, BN also didn’t vote, so I’m not alone in that boat either.

    It’s also noteworthy that BN hopped on the Val train immediately after your vote and cemented that train in other words. Which would be a knock against BN tbh.

    But BN kickstarting the Morrison train D1 isn’t suspicious to me because BN going after inactives is so NAI, it doesn’t matter.
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    I wasnt on the MTR vote because we were at L-2 when I went to bed and wanted to give people time to post. Day then ended before I had a chance to get back to the thread. I asked if people wanted me to vote or hold, I held for more communications.
  25. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    ForgottenHold said:
    An RKO only works if I’m not expecting it
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    Badger said:
    Damn…..foiled!

    How about a Diamond Cutter then?
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    Even knowing you'll get one, it can still hit at an unexpected time
  26. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Xanjori said:
    Does MTR open his D1 vote on his partner?
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    If he always votes Future D1, then all of a sudden doesnt do it this game, that would be another point... Hard to take people doing tradition votes too seriously on their 1st one of the game.
  27. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    After thinking about it while I was out, feel Future might be the way to go.

    Bad vote record, Defended by known scum, visited the dead last night. Tildey saying he's improved his town tells, but what has he done this phase and last? Feels more like his scum tells of being a bit overwhelmed and not wanting to talk for fear of getting caught.

    Since we are in a pivotal time, going to hold my vote to allow people to talk.
  28. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    Do you think scum get the coins from the murder victum?
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    That is a good question. If they do, not gonna get much from me.
  29. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Badger said:
    Well interesting response is all I’ll say at this point.
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    Was in response to Drey pinging Claws, You, Future and myself... assumed he meant out of that grp, who would I lynch or not lynch.

    Personally my POE is Future, Tildey and Drey. Feel like we will find at least 1, maybe 2 scum here.
  30. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Badger said:
    Saying that after I posted it…Tildey vote is intriguing as not entirely buying her “Oh struggling to read MTR” shtick when he’s flipped. It smeeeellllss!
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    I think both surviving house members have some scum equity
  31. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Dreyski said:
    According to his will, I was his target for N3. Assuming he had a more gold-expensive 'amp power', not unreasonable to imagine he could have had an x2 on any of his actions.
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    It doesnt mean his info would have cleared you either.
  32. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Dreyski said:
    We could run a four man thunderdome...
    @Claws @Badger @Blind Ninja @ForgottenHold

    Who in your group would you vote for, and who, excluding yourself, would you not vote for?
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    Of the 4, Id vote Future.

    Think Claws is the most town of the grp
  33. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Badger said:
    I don’t like this just now. Maybe I’m reading it wrong but seems a bit mechanical and not much working out who is who.

    Could be harsh but yeah this pings me a bit.
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    Im saying I dont think claws is the killer of the 4 ppl visiting. He called out that 4 showed up at listo's. It was in response to saying "it wasnt me"

    Sure its a little mechanical. But it also furthered my read of him being more then likely town.
  34. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    Its not me i am 1 of 4 that visted listo you are 2/4 badger is 3/4 and future is 4/4
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    I would assume the person coming forth saying X number of people visited someone wouldnt be the killer either.
  35. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    Hard enough sheeting when you have coins to act
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    Thats another fun thing to work through
  36. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Trying to wrap my head around the 2 cannibal/janitor kills.

    Also trying to figure out who the 3p is, but failing hard there. My thoughts on it are tinfoil towards you Claws... or someone trying to not make waves.
  37. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Tildey said:
    I knew something was bothering me about some of MTR’s posts but couldn’t put my finger on it until your put all of those together. It was the consistent firm defense of Future. But not defending him for post content or activity or even style. Just basically for vibes or because “hey guys, Future’s just playing how I’m playing and I’m totally town.”
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    Kinda convenient to say "I didnt notice til someone posted them all together"

    Yesterday both Future and Tildey didnt weigh in. Tildey votedd after deets revealed. Future more or less MIA.

    These 2 plus drey wouldd be my PoE today.
  38. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    Ya i think i chopped it up as fog til player death but it was an exmple only
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    Feels more like something put in play to limit sheeting.

    We get a little more info as the game goes with Wills.
  39. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    For example maybe your the one that hides info from read up /shrug
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    Nightingale said:
    Night’s Shroud - No scum actions will show in story write ups, with the exception of successful kills, and a random number of town actions each night will be hidden. Additionally, the targets of scum actions will not be revealed on death.
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    You mean the fact that its something that we've had all game?
  40. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    Im just curious why 4 ppl visted listo
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    Claws said:
    Id apprecaite answers from them
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    Well you know we cant claim.

    I dont have the ability to kill.
  41. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Blind Ninja said:
    Im almost 100% claws is town. Only pause would be if he's 3p. His 3p play is similar to his town play.
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    Badger said:
    BN accusing Claws of possibly being 3rd party pings me slightly. This doesn’t strike as chaotic Claws who I have as town.
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    I didnt accuse him of being 3p.

    Said, as above, almost 100% he is town. Only reason I dont have him at 100%, is because we have a 3p and Claws' 3p play is similar to his town play. Thats more tinfoil then an accusation.
  42. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Because it implies that they are inactive due to their life activity and not due to them being a wolf.

    You've raised some points against me today, have you not?
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    Raising points is one thing. Pushing is another. At least this is my opinion, yours and others may be different
  43. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    To expand on the previous answer a little - my read here is that the wolf team was divided in their treatment of MTR. There was one wolf who was making an effort to save him (BN) by downplaying MTR's inactivity yesterday in the post I quoted & angling to push me instead of MTR; and another wolf (Listo) who was distancing from MTR and then decided to go all the way and outright bus him due to his wagon picking up and there not being a strong alternative to say.
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    Holy shit man... Agenda much?

    How is reminding the thread of someones actual life activity downplaying there inactivity?

    Again, have I tried to push you? Ive mentioned you arent cleared every time you said things havent condemned you. If I was pushing you, I would actually me pushing and voting.

    All of this again is you focusing on your narrow pov.
  44. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    I get bored.

    But not rushing is probably fine.

    Scrooge Mcduck Disney GIF
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    I figure give at least 24hrs of the day to see what else comes out.
  45. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    That vote puts MTR at L-2

    My question still stands... Do we lynch? or give everyone time for quests and more discussion? Do we think scum need gold too?
  46. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    I was just arguing the allegations levied against me.

    Innocent until proven guilty and all that.
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    Only way to prove your guilt or innocents would be to lynch you ;)
  47. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    I feel like I have been the paragon of civility in this game. Do others feel differently?
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    you may not have resorted to name calling... but i wouldnt exactly say reading you has been completely civil
  48. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Well, I was never insinuating that I should be cleared here so it just seemed like a random thing to say.
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    When you keep saying "It doesnt condemn me"... that feels like insinuating in cleared... not to mention you've essentially claimed to be cleared.

    So if you keep saying 1, ill remind you the other is also true
  49. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Everything from you seems to come from a VERY narrow pov... I dont think you step back and look at the big picture of what could be. And you solely push that narrow pov.
  50. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Because CWE's info really doesn't condemn me.

    If you think I am mafia, you should push me based on something other than that.
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    Im not pushing you. Just saying nothing clears you. Your vote record and the "anyone but me (or future)" would be worth pushing more then the CWE stuff.

    At best I have you town lean. I just dislike how you talk to people. So that may be more bias towards not moving you higher into a town read.
  51. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Nope
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    Still a far stretch there buddy...
  52. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    I never said it clears me.
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    No, but youve just said "it doesnt condemn me" 3 times now
  53. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    So the productive thing here would be to look at everyone's interactions with MTR to see who might be aligned/unaligned with him.

    To save you some trouble:

    I was somewhat suspicious of MTR on d1 and then eased off on it on D2. Had him in my Poe but not in the bottom of that poe. Kinda started a counterwagon to him when MTR was at 2 votes and I started pushing Val.

    I'll concede that it's not a good look for me.

    Also BN has been an MTR apologist today I would say.
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    More then a little stretch there...
  54. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    That CWE's info doesn't condemn me.
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    Ive agreed with you already that it didnt condemn you, but it also doesnt clear you...
  55. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Since we have deets on MTR, and I know not all have posted in thread... Do we give everyone time to get quests done? Or do we try to limit gold scum can get?
  56. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    As am I?
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    what are you trying to say here?
  57. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Why would he not share them on D2?
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    He's stated its info from last night.
  58. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Listo95 said:
    Nope. Got last night. Yesterday was purely for vote location.
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    Fair. Was just going back and looking at votes. Felt like it could have been something.
  59. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    I'm not but it also doesn't condemn me.
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    Agreed it doesnt condemn you. Just stating the you are no more then a read one way or the other, and not mechanically cleared.
  60. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Still, CWE never presented said logic so there was none for me to call out.

    He also said 90% not 99%.

    He also said that every single thing I posted except for one read as towny to him and he voted someone who wasn't me by the end of yesterday.
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    Either way, none of that clears you. As you claim to be now.
  61. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    I don't get why you'd jump to immediately town reading Listo for claiming deets on an already dying wolf (assuming MTR is indeed a wolf)
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    Listo has been sitting on the MTR vote since he showed up D2... so he likely had deets from N1, but hadnt stated deets til today. At least looking at votes, is my assumption.
  62. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    MTR said:
    I have been completely convinced he was town when he was scum more than once so yeah I don't even try to read him anymore especially early in the game. I have stated this in like multiple games
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    Im almost 100% claws is town. Only pause would be if he's 3p. His 3p play is similar to his town play.
  63. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    Hes lack or particpation leans scum
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    Claws said:
    Likely mtr wont post alot he will get caught by tildey or badger or mazer
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    Claws said:
    Its surpising tildey hasnt taken a bullet they may be conspiring together :chin:
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    He did say yesterday that he went to a wrestling show saturday and had another to goto sunday evening.

    The fact he hasnt done/said anything today could be something. But not knowing his life, cant really tell one way or another
  64. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    You are not incorrect. But that's majority rule for you. You have to compromise if you want to get anyone yeeted. And town has to get people yeeted in order to win.
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    Im well aware of that, but still, nothing clears you.
  65. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    I have a consistent record of being opposed to voting sleep on D1. You are taking issue with something I've done as town multiple times before.

    It wasn't exactly "anyone but me" yesterday. I was opposed to Future wagon for example.
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    So anyone but future. You voting around felt very much like throwing shit at the wall to see what stuck.
  66. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I also find it amusing that Insaner basically used the same defense I had. "Would I vote/push here knowing id look bad"
  67. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    Vote: mtr
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    Any reasoning, or just want to pile onto someone?
  68. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I do like the thought of asking the house updated reads on one another.
  69. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    It's a bargaigning tactic. People were saying at the start of today that I should probably die. I say I'm an obvious villager. So let's meet in the middle and agree to at least let me survive another day, eh? We are all reasonable people here afterall.
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    You are the only one that thinks you are obvi town. Others feel different.

    My issue with you stems from egging Future on to hammer D1. Then the "Anyone but me" approach you had to D2. With the consisted "we gotta go" egging on. Nobody has said anything to clear you, so imo you are sus til someone clears you.
  70. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    I've made myself not w/w with so many people today.
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    So when you flip wolf, it clears half the remaining players? Good to know
  71. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    The purity of Val's wagon has been diluted xD

    Where oh where is Xanjori when I need him to guide me
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    Insaner said:
    But then again, we just gotta.
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    You keep saying we gotta... Im helping what you're pushing.

    Would I intentionally vote there, knowing it would make me look worse, if I was scum? Real smart play if I am...

    Want me to leave the train so it goes back to being pure to you? It'll just make your goal of getting a lynch harder.
  72. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Listo95 said:
    Whenever town is scum they go after Val. 90% of the time he’s town in that scenario.
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    TBF, we have several people that fit the bill. You are occasionally in that spot yourself.
  73. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Id almost be willing to vote Insaner, just to test the semi-deets... which also aids others in solving CWE. But, his posting, as much as I dislike parts, feels natural and townish
  74. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Ill jump on the crazy train. And put myself in a position on the train that will make me look shitty if Val flips town.

    Vote: Val

    L-2

    Working towards a lynch, removing an inactive/lurker, make myself look bad... all in one go.
  75. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    What do we need for lynch today, 7?
  76. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    i honestly feel like saner is the only right thing if cwe dies and flips we are gunna sink saner either way
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    Id say that would depend on what CWE flips. Hate that I agree with Insaner about that
  77. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Dreyski said:
    I asked ChatGPT to try and decipher the code. It went a bit awry, but the final message made me laugh:

    ME: The game is social deduction, the relevant players are CWE and Insaner. CWE wrote a message beginning 'Insaner was' and then 7 2 2 4 3 4 3 5. The numbers relate to the number of letters in each word. What word could each number represent and make a complete sentence?

    CHATGPT: To decipher the message, we can assign each number to a word with that many letters. Here's the breakdown:
    • 7: Insaner
    • 2: was
    • 2: ?? (Need to determine)
    • 4: the
    • 3: ?? (Need to determine)
    • 4: ?? (Need to determine)
    • 3: ?? (Need to determine)
    • 5: ?? (Need to determine)
    Given the context, let's try to fill in the missing words:
    • 2: is likely "on" or "an"
    • 3: could be "red", "our", "top", etc.
    • 4: could be "team", "from", "with", etc.
    • 5: might be "their", "party", "among", etc.
    Now, let's form a sentence:
    "Insaner was on our team with their red party."
    This sentence seems plausible within the context of a social deduction game. However, without additional information or context, it's hard to confirm the accuracy of this interpretation.
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    Down side, the 2nd word is 2 letters in the 7 2 2 4 3 4 3 5 and you forced "was"
  78. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I see someone has taken up my "lynch the lurker" approach when I dont have a solid read to push. (I have a few reads, only solid one is Claws damn nead town locked to me) Nap helped some, but still have a headache and need to eat.
  79. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    CWE said:
    Hangover? Lol...amateurs.
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    I know... Ive cut back to only drinking every other weekend. Back in my military days, I was drinking at least 4 nights a week and heavily on Fri/Sat. Needed to give my liver a break
  80. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Mazer said:
    CWE has never been hungover. If he's had too much, he grills himself a flank steak and wears two wet socks to bed.
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    If I got more then 3hrs sleep, I likely wouldnt be hungover... but for some ungodly reason I woke up and couldnt get back to sleep
  81. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Like I ask you for what your reads are and you are telling me "f off, Insaner, you are not my mother! I do what I please"

    It's still pretty telling, ya feel me?
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    Think it might have something with your tone or how you come across? I dont enjoy conversing with you, and its taking effort to not resort to name calling like Xan did last night. Maybe if you stop misrepresenting things ive said, and ask for clarification instead, Id be more receptive to you.
  82. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Claws said:
    bn cant handle his hangover like cwe
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    Not like I used to... getting older sucks.
  83. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Stop your grumbling

    What are your reads?
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    That its too damn early on a Sunday after heavy drinking last night.
  84. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Pretty much yeah. I reevaluated my read on Xanjori from mafia to town after taking a step back so now I'm inclined to look for people who looked unconcerned during our argument. Of these, BN, Listo and Val stand out to me the most.
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    Funny thing, I asked a question during the back and forth, which went unnoticed/unanswered... Now youve said I was "unconcerned" and "encouraged" the fight.
  85. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    The lack of voting during this phase concerns me
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    We as a community have been very late in action without deets. I anticipate more movement with about 4-6hrs left in the day. As thats been the "normal" thing for a while.
  86. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    That's your cue to take a stance on, like, anything @Blind Ninja btw
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    I have my opinions. Telling me to take a stance, or putting words in my mouth (like youve tried to do a couple times), wont get me to do what you want.
  87. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    I was more so talking about the Sedona paragraph of your post where you were asking us to talk about out reads on each other

    I think it's not unreasonable to suspect you may have been trying to encourage the thundersome. In any case you certainly haven't taken a stance here yourself.
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    I was more wondering where you guys stood after having a chance to step back. I hadnt been vocal about my stance on it since I wanted to see how you 2 interacted after having a chance to think about it and calm down. Not trying to jump into the middle, but wanted to see if and how your reads developed after taking some time away from the thread.
  88. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Badger said:
    This is going to annoy me for the rest of Sunday.

    Going to Brewdog later as have reward partner vouchers through Tesco (the job does have some perks) to stuff my face with beer and pizza so may chew on this then.
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    Oh shit... Brewdog is 7.... and tesco is 5 ;)
  89. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Badger said:
    One more Hail Mary guess but a Hail Maryz

    7 is Erasmus and 5 is Ptery and it’s maybe to do with their action but that is a Hail Mary.

    Maybe Claws might get it.
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    If we are looking at characters... Pterry is 6 letters

    But Shema and Shameen are 5 and 7. Antwerp, Schutlz are also 7.
  90. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Okay I should really stop trolling people I apologize

    But that post reads like BN may have been encouraging the thunderdome between Xanjori and myself. He certainly was enjoying it
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    So maybe stop trolling people...

    Encouraging the thunderdome between you, youve misread something else. And again, stop putting words into my mouth by saying I was enjoying it. Read it again, "fun back and forth. hope things calmed down". Does that really read as encouraging a fight between you 2 if tvt? Does it sound like I enjoyed it?
  91. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Ive read through todays posts. Definitely some fun back and forth. Hopefully things have calmed down.

    @Insaner @Xanjori How confident are you in just voting the other person? Still willing to vote the other? Why?
  92. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Xanjori said:
    I came into thread, starting reading from where I was.

    I saw CWEs info but decided to just read around it.

    Yes I went to work last night after day started, how could I do such a thing Ill never know, Insaner is wolf reading me not solving in those 10 minutes I had to post while getting ready. When I checked thread there are quite a few people that hadnt reported in at all, or done much solving. So fmpov Insaner looks extremely agenda'd there. But whatever, I start going through other posts, respond to Badger, Insaner asks me why Im talking to an outed wolf. Like what is his play here? If I was a wolf and I want him to die due to the info why would I interact with him at all? His read at this point is beyond poor, its just wrong with making 0 effort to actually correct it.

    Im looking at the world Im just pissed at Insaner for being a complete moron, and he is in fact a stubborn V. Like I said in the other post our options are resolving him today, or deciding we trust him because otherwise CWE's info will cause tinfoil late game and wolf or town someone will use it to push him.
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    Insaner feels more hyperfocused on the person he's talking to at the time. I had a small interaction last night before going to bed, and it almost felt like he was hounding me. But we talked it out.

    Im sure if others were here and discussing, he would be chomping at the bits to interact with them as well.
  93. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    CWE said:
    I'm not drunk.





    Yet.......:shifty:
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    I know the feeling, I will be tomorrow night. Likely loads of tequila
  94. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Or we could just yeet Xanjori. That would work for me too.
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    That is a possibility, but would like to see how the next 20-24hrs shakes out.
  95. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Oh yeah that makes sense. I still think it's weird that you chose to phrase it like that though
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    Fair. Im tired as fuck man. So saying things twice. If only I was drunk like CWE. Thats tomorrow night
  96. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Then clarify it for me por favor. What did you mean by "it's not like D1 me would have changed the vote from that point on"?.
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    It was a bit redundant to the "didnt have time or ability to look back at the thread before day ended."

    Cant say that I wouldnt have changed if I was around, but it would have taking convincing on a target. I wasnt keen on a Future vote at the time. He felt townie on D1.
  97. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    I can see your point of view though... I respect you for that
  98. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    Dissecting this post a little

    If you weren't able to look back at the thread and I'm accusing you of being wolfy for it, then is it not be unfair?

    This feels like too pliable a response.

    Also the "not like D1 me would have changed the vote" reads like "even if I was a villager I would have done the same thing" lmao
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    So putting words in my mouth... something I dislike people doing. Not gonna make me like you more or sus you less.

    Would you prefer I didnt have a vote out? Then you would have called me sus for that.
  99. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    I mean he was on a Morrison train and he is hard to read. I had Claws as part of my Poe during N1. So it's not an unreasonable vote.

    I liked the post I quoted from Claws today though, and I think he may be the mason 3pups was trying to find given his yesterday's antics about wanting to party. So he might be that wolfy villager in the POE.
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    I agree that this feels like the wolfy villager Claws playstyle. I almost always think he's sus, but something about this feels very similar to his play last game in which he was town.
  100. Blind Ninja

    Mafia 14: Quest for Mafia - So you want to be a Hero?

    Insaner said:
    I don't mind BN's initial vote per say but him not coming back after the train had grown worries me
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    Thats fair. I placed the vote before going to bed, and didnt have time or ability to look back at the thread before day ended. Not like D1 me would have changed my vote from that point on. If im posting anytime around 4-8am EST, Im likely still awake from the day before. I dont use my phone for the game, so if im not home, I dont read/post.
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